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	<title>Comments on: Hallmarks of the Politically Correct Myth of the American Civil War</title>
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		<title>By: Dick Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC is a loaded phrase, even the initials by themselves. I like to fire it off now and then, though I know it isnt fair. But, hell, who wants to be fair all the time?

I would aver that every era has had its political correctness, previously called conventional wisdom. 

You know, the stuff everyone knows is true whether it is or not simply because they hear it more often than any other view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC is a loaded phrase, even the initials by themselves. I like to fire it off now and then, though I know it isnt fair. But, hell, who wants to be fair all the time?</p>
<p>I would aver that every era has had its political correctness, previously called conventional wisdom. </p>
<p>You know, the stuff everyone knows is true whether it is or not simply because they hear it more often than any other view.</p>
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		<title>By: Greatest Hits from Civil Warriors: The &#8220;Politically Correct&#8221; Strawman &#171; Crossroads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greatest Hits from Civil Warriors: The &#8220;Politically Correct&#8221; Strawman &#171; Crossroads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But with access comes responsibility.  If one enters the conversation and wishes to be taken seriously, then one must not run away when one is taken seriously and has one&#8217;s arguments subjected to scrutiny.  Here&#8217;s one example. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But with access comes responsibility.  If one enters the conversation and wishes to be taken seriously, then one must not run away when one is taken seriously and has one&#8217;s arguments subjected to scrutiny.  Here&#8217;s one example. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Civil War started, politically in the 1820&#039;s. The list of traitors, in my opinion is a long one, Robert E. Lee is not on my list. Andrew Jackson, surprisingly enough is at the top of my list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Civil War started, politically in the 1820&#8242;s. The list of traitors, in my opinion is a long one, Robert E. Lee is not on my list. Andrew Jackson, surprisingly enough is at the top of my list.</p>
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		<title>By: LCS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[1] There will always be people who make incorrect interpretations of history. My question to the author is, how pervasive do you feel these  incorrect views are? Is this issue of PCM-ness a minor thing, or a major one? 

[2] I wonder, who does the author perceive as being PCM? Does being a proponent of any one of these hallmarks make someone PCM, or is it one or two hallmarks, or all of them?

[3] &quot;Southern slavery, while not kind, was not excessively cruel considering the standards in place. &quot;

Please provide your definition of &quot;excessive cruelty.&quot;

[4] I would add this comment on the never-ending discussion of what &quot;caused&quot; the war.

As I see it, there are really two questions:
(a) why did the southern states secede?
(b) what caused the Confederacy and the United States to go to war?

These are two separate questions, with two separate answers (IMO). But they are often put into a single question, resulting in responses that often go in different directions and prevent any useful debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[1] There will always be people who make incorrect interpretations of history. My question to the author is, how pervasive do you feel these  incorrect views are? Is this issue of PCM-ness a minor thing, or a major one? </p>
<p>[2] I wonder, who does the author perceive as being PCM? Does being a proponent of any one of these hallmarks make someone PCM, or is it one or two hallmarks, or all of them?</p>
<p>[3] &#8220;Southern slavery, while not kind, was not excessively cruel considering the standards in place. &#8221;</p>
<p>Please provide your definition of &#8220;excessive cruelty.&#8221;</p>
<p>[4] I would add this comment on the never-ending discussion of what &#8220;caused&#8221; the war.</p>
<p>As I see it, there are really two questions:<br />
(a) why did the southern states secede?<br />
(b) what caused the Confederacy and the United States to go to war?</p>
<p>These are two separate questions, with two separate answers (IMO). But they are often put into a single question, resulting in responses that often go in different directions and prevent any useful debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks D. Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooks D. Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mc Pherson, Simpson, Levin and the rest of the crowd ... want to dictate the interpretation of history. &quot;

I&#039;d love to know how.  

This is the sort of mindless accusation that is of a twin with &quot;political correctness&quot; rants.  Unlike Mr. Durney, BR seems unwilling to identify himself, however.  Wonder why.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mc Pherson, Simpson, Levin and the rest of the crowd &#8230; want to dictate the interpretation of history. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know how.  </p>
<p>This is the sort of mindless accusation that is of a twin with &#8220;political correctness&#8221; rants.  Unlike Mr. Durney, BR seems unwilling to identify himself, however.  Wonder why.  <img src='http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, my response should have been directed to Mr. Durney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, my response should have been directed to Mr. Durney.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett:

Excellent post. Regarding the &quot;Lee was a traitor myth&quot;, I have a post coming some time tomorrow that touches on that issue. Here&#039;s an excerpt:

&quot;Those who suggest Lee was a &#039;traitor&#039; for remaining loyal to Virginia over the Union overlook the fact that Virginia had been a political entity for more than two hundred years, and that Lee’s roots in Virginia could be traced to the year 1640. The United States had only been a reality for about 80 years at the time Lee resigned from the United States Army. Those who would label Lee a traitor are transferring 21st century American notions and beliefs about nationhood and loyalty to 19th century Americans - presentism at it&#039;s worse. Lee chose home, family, and likely defeat over a faceless concept of &quot;Union&quot; and likely glory and promotion. Many still see that as honorable. I suppose certain corners of academia prefer Lee being characterized as a vile, slave-holding traitor who had only selfish motives in casting his lot with what he likely knew was a losing proposition from the very beginning. That perspective is so sophomoric, shallow, and false as to be embarrassing. But it does fit the template and agenda.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett:</p>
<p>Excellent post. Regarding the &#8220;Lee was a traitor myth&#8221;, I have a post coming some time tomorrow that touches on that issue. Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who suggest Lee was a &#8216;traitor&#8217; for remaining loyal to Virginia over the Union overlook the fact that Virginia had been a political entity for more than two hundred years, and that Lee’s roots in Virginia could be traced to the year 1640. The United States had only been a reality for about 80 years at the time Lee resigned from the United States Army. Those who would label Lee a traitor are transferring 21st century American notions and beliefs about nationhood and loyalty to 19th century Americans &#8211; presentism at it&#8217;s worse. Lee chose home, family, and likely defeat over a faceless concept of &#8220;Union&#8221; and likely glory and promotion. Many still see that as honorable. I suppose certain corners of academia prefer Lee being characterized as a vile, slave-holding traitor who had only selfish motives in casting his lot with what he likely knew was a losing proposition from the very beginning. That perspective is so sophomoric, shallow, and false as to be embarrassing. But it does fit the template and agenda.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BR</title>
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		<dc:creator>BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article:
&quot;1.  ...An excellent indication that you are talking to a PCMer is when they equate the Confederacy and /or owning slaves with the Third Reich.&quot;

The statements of Thaddeus Stevens, Nathaniel Lyon, and Wm. T. Sherman (about exterminating Southerners) sound more like the Third Reich.

As for slavery, the North had no reservation in maintaining slavery in areas that it controlled.  No reservation in using slave labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article:<br />
&#8220;1.  &#8230;An excellent indication that you are talking to a PCMer is when they equate the Confederacy and /or owning slaves with the Third Reich.&#8221;</p>
<p>The statements of Thaddeus Stevens, Nathaniel Lyon, and Wm. T. Sherman (about exterminating Southerners) sound more like the Third Reich.</p>
<p>As for slavery, the North had no reservation in maintaining slavery in areas that it controlled.  No reservation in using slave labor.</p>
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		<title>By: BR</title>
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		<dc:creator>BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Hickox:
&quot;All you have to do is study the casualty figures to see that a massacre took place at Ft. Pillow&quot;

Casualty figures according to who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Hickox:<br />
&#8220;All you have to do is study the casualty figures to see that a massacre took place at Ft. Pillow&#8221;</p>
<p>Casualty figures according to who?</p>
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		<title>By: BR</title>
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		<dc:creator>BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t call these folks &quot;PCMers&quot;...but neo-Radicals (after their ideological forebears).

Mc Pherson, Simpson, Levin and the rest of the crowd.

They want to dictate the interpretation of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t call these folks &#8220;PCMers&#8221;&#8230;but neo-Radicals (after their ideological forebears).</p>
<p>Mc Pherson, Simpson, Levin and the rest of the crowd.</p>
<p>They want to dictate the interpretation of history.</p>
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