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	<title>Comments on: Review: Master of War: The Life of General George H. Thomas by Benson Bobrick</title>
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		<title>By: Top 10 Amazon.com Civil War Bestsellers: April 2009 &#124; TOCWOC - A Civil War Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 10 Amazon.com Civil War Bestsellers: April 2009 &#124; TOCWOC - A Civil War Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Fellow TOCWOC blogger Jim Durney reviewed Master of War  rather unfavorably last month, and it received quite a few comments, including some from the author himself.  Unfortunately, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mr. LeDuc, I hope you noticed the 
&quot;all-too-often nasty, snarky, and spiteful shots&quot; are not coming from the  hagiographer&#039;s who right about Thomas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mr. LeDuc, I hope you noticed the<br />
&#8220;all-too-often nasty, snarky, and spiteful shots&#8221; are not coming from the  hagiographer&#8217;s who right about Thomas!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil LeDuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil LeDuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pleasure it&#039;s been reading the exchanges here - a far cry from the all-too-often nasty, snarky,  and spiteful shots that I&#039;ve seen at other times and on other blogs.  Isn&#039;t it funny how dropping or changing just a few words can change the whole tone of a comment without diminishing its content or the point that the author wishes to make.
Best wishes to all the authors and commentators on their various projects.
(And my regards too to Mr. Bobrick for  &quot;Whirlwind&quot;, which I read and enjoyed a few years back.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pleasure it&#8217;s been reading the exchanges here &#8211; a far cry from the all-too-often nasty, snarky,  and spiteful shots that I&#8217;ve seen at other times and on other blogs.  Isn&#8217;t it funny how dropping or changing just a few words can change the whole tone of a comment without diminishing its content or the point that the author wishes to make.<br />
Best wishes to all the authors and commentators on their various projects.<br />
(And my regards too to Mr. Bobrick for  &#8220;Whirlwind&#8221;, which I read and enjoyed a few years back.)</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Bobrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Bobrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It so happens that I&#039;m snowed in here in Vermont, so I unexpectedly have time to add another comment, before I make way for others.  I&#039;ll need to be away from my computer in any case until the end of the week.

I had a pleasant note from Jim Durney the other day.  I’m hopeful we’ll both find it useful at some point to exchange ideas, even if we don’t win each other over to our respective “sides.”

Now, I wanted to address the concern he expressed in his review that I was somehow slamming West Point.  I certainly didn’t mean to give that impression.  I described the curriculum and training cadets received, and noted that the school had an engineering emphasis, which is accepted.  I wasn&#039;t critical of that, though I noted  some had been.  I also commended the West Point administration under Robert E. Lee, and the contribution Thomas made to the academy by his distinguished instruction in cavalry and artillery tactics during his relatively brief tenure as a teacher there.  The one critical point I raised was whether secession had been taught at any time at West Point before the war.  Some said it had been.  Others said it merely leaned South.  True, I quote Benjamin Wade.  But for balance, I also quoted J.E.B. Stuart, who said there was “a strong Southern feeling” at the school.   In any case, I raised the issue in the context of a brief discussion as to whether Lee or Thomas had the better grasp of the constitutional issues at stake.  I think it’s clear that Thomas did, in the way he reasoned the matter out for himself.  Lee is said to have been misled by the legal axioms of one of the textbooks with respect to the right of a state to secede.  If Lee was not misled--or if William Rawle’s textbook was not, in fact, the culprit, as some have claimed--I’d be happy to correct it.  But that would give Lee&#039;s choosing less excuse.   In any case, it was the contrast between Lee and Thomas that I was really trying to draw.

Of course, Thomas went on to become completely expert in all matters of military law, and his right reasoning in this instance demonstrated one aspect of his careful thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It so happens that I&#8217;m snowed in here in Vermont, so I unexpectedly have time to add another comment, before I make way for others.  I&#8217;ll need to be away from my computer in any case until the end of the week.</p>
<p>I had a pleasant note from Jim Durney the other day.  I’m hopeful we’ll both find it useful at some point to exchange ideas, even if we don’t win each other over to our respective “sides.”</p>
<p>Now, I wanted to address the concern he expressed in his review that I was somehow slamming West Point.  I certainly didn’t mean to give that impression.  I described the curriculum and training cadets received, and noted that the school had an engineering emphasis, which is accepted.  I wasn&#8217;t critical of that, though I noted  some had been.  I also commended the West Point administration under Robert E. Lee, and the contribution Thomas made to the academy by his distinguished instruction in cavalry and artillery tactics during his relatively brief tenure as a teacher there.  The one critical point I raised was whether secession had been taught at any time at West Point before the war.  Some said it had been.  Others said it merely leaned South.  True, I quote Benjamin Wade.  But for balance, I also quoted J.E.B. Stuart, who said there was “a strong Southern feeling” at the school.   In any case, I raised the issue in the context of a brief discussion as to whether Lee or Thomas had the better grasp of the constitutional issues at stake.  I think it’s clear that Thomas did, in the way he reasoned the matter out for himself.  Lee is said to have been misled by the legal axioms of one of the textbooks with respect to the right of a state to secede.  If Lee was not misled&#8211;or if William Rawle’s textbook was not, in fact, the culprit, as some have claimed&#8211;I’d be happy to correct it.  But that would give Lee&#8217;s choosing less excuse.   In any case, it was the contrast between Lee and Thomas that I was really trying to draw.</p>
<p>Of course, Thomas went on to become completely expert in all matters of military law, and his right reasoning in this instance demonstrated one aspect of his careful thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Bobrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Bobrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mr. Bonds.   I will certainly look forward to your book on the Atlanta campaign.  My great-grandfather fought on that campaign all the way to the gates of Atlanta, as I recount in my last Civil War book (&quot;Testament&quot;) based on his surviving war letters.  Those letters proved enormously eloquent and detailed (he served in the Western theater of the war for over 3 years) , so I was able to tell much of the story of that arena of fighting through his eyes.  It was while working on that book that I became aware of Thomas as a singular figure in the Union high command.  Also, there are some details in those letters that might interest you about the Atlanta march.  My great-grandfather was a lowly private, but marvelously observant.   Also, I&#039;m delighted to learn that you are familiar with my book on the American Revolution, too.

If I may, I just want to add here, as an aside, that one reason Grant &amp; Sherman are treated somewhat harshly in my book is that my book, after all, is about Thomas.  And at least in relation to him their behavior was often bad.   That being said,  I have no quarrel with those who admire qualities  (personal and otherwise) that Grant and Sherman both showed in other spheres of their lives.   In writing about Thomas, however, I set out to right what I perceived as a grievous wrong.   As I saw it, that wrong had been done to him by the two most famous Union soldiers of the war.   Again, it&#039;s not that Thomas was a saint, though I believe he possessed a kind of &quot;Washingtonian&quot; greatness.  The thing about him was that he was a &quot;man of honor&quot; through and through.   And so even when he made a political mistake (for example, not taking over from Buell), you can&#039;t help but admire him for it, because the mistake that he makes is for the most high-minded of reasons  (i.e., not to edge out a superior officer, or even to appear to conspire against him).  So we are confronted with a difficult paradox: that the very character trait that enables him to shine forth in battle after battle--his fearless determination to do the right thing, and stand firm--is also the trait by which he slowed his own advancement.  Can we honestly condemn him for it?  I could not find it in myself to do so, though I can follow the reasoning that would find him in some sense at fault.

Well, I have gone on too long, perhaps.  Again my thanks.  With kind regards, Benson Bobrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr. Bonds.   I will certainly look forward to your book on the Atlanta campaign.  My great-grandfather fought on that campaign all the way to the gates of Atlanta, as I recount in my last Civil War book (&#8220;Testament&#8221;) based on his surviving war letters.  Those letters proved enormously eloquent and detailed (he served in the Western theater of the war for over 3 years) , so I was able to tell much of the story of that arena of fighting through his eyes.  It was while working on that book that I became aware of Thomas as a singular figure in the Union high command.  Also, there are some details in those letters that might interest you about the Atlanta march.  My great-grandfather was a lowly private, but marvelously observant.   Also, I&#8217;m delighted to learn that you are familiar with my book on the American Revolution, too.</p>
<p>If I may, I just want to add here, as an aside, that one reason Grant &amp; Sherman are treated somewhat harshly in my book is that my book, after all, is about Thomas.  And at least in relation to him their behavior was often bad.   That being said,  I have no quarrel with those who admire qualities  (personal and otherwise) that Grant and Sherman both showed in other spheres of their lives.   In writing about Thomas, however, I set out to right what I perceived as a grievous wrong.   As I saw it, that wrong had been done to him by the two most famous Union soldiers of the war.   Again, it&#8217;s not that Thomas was a saint, though I believe he possessed a kind of &#8220;Washingtonian&#8221; greatness.  The thing about him was that he was a &#8220;man of honor&#8221; through and through.   And so even when he made a political mistake (for example, not taking over from Buell), you can&#8217;t help but admire him for it, because the mistake that he makes is for the most high-minded of reasons  (i.e., not to edge out a superior officer, or even to appear to conspire against him).  So we are confronted with a difficult paradox: that the very character trait that enables him to shine forth in battle after battle&#8211;his fearless determination to do the right thing, and stand firm&#8211;is also the trait by which he slowed his own advancement.  Can we honestly condemn him for it?  I could not find it in myself to do so, though I can follow the reasoning that would find him in some sense at fault.</p>
<p>Well, I have gone on too long, perhaps.  Again my thanks.  With kind regards, Benson Bobrick</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Bonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Bonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add to those who appreciate Mr. Bobrick&#039;s conscientious reach-out to the group here.  Mr. Bobrick, if you are still reading these comments, I&#039;m the author of the initial one quoted in the first comment above--I enjoyed your book as a part of my current research on the Atlanta Campaign (as I did your &quot;Whirlwind&quot; on the Revolution, some years ago).  I think I portray Thomas as extremely capable in my forthcoming Atlanta book, though I think there is room for both he and Sherman to coexist as great generals (fully admitting, however, that Sherman was capable of being, and often was, quite an SOB, both during and after the war).   Kind regards, Russell Bonds, Atlanta GA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add to those who appreciate Mr. Bobrick&#8217;s conscientious reach-out to the group here.  Mr. Bobrick, if you are still reading these comments, I&#8217;m the author of the initial one quoted in the first comment above&#8211;I enjoyed your book as a part of my current research on the Atlanta Campaign (as I did your &#8220;Whirlwind&#8221; on the Revolution, some years ago).  I think I portray Thomas as extremely capable in my forthcoming Atlanta book, though I think there is room for both he and Sherman to coexist as great generals (fully admitting, however, that Sherman was capable of being, and often was, quite an SOB, both during and after the war).   Kind regards, Russell Bonds, Atlanta GA</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Bobrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Bobrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thanks to you both for encouraging good dialogue.   The email address given above is the better one to reach me at.  Please forward that to Mr. Durney.  You are both welcome to contact me at that address as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thanks to you both for encouraging good dialogue.   The email address given above is the better one to reach me at.  Please forward that to Mr. Durney.  You are both welcome to contact me at that address as well.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bobrick,

I have passed along your personal email address to Jim as well.</description>
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<p>I have passed along your personal email address to Jim as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Benson Bobrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson Bobrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m grateful to you both for your encouragement of good dialogue.   The better email to reach me at, then, is the one I indicate below.  Please forward that to James Durney.  You are both welcome to contact me at the same  address as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful to you both for your encouragement of good dialogue.   The better email to reach me at, then, is the one I indicate below.  Please forward that to James Durney.  You are both welcome to contact me at the same  address as well.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

I agree wholeheartedly.  

Mr. Bobrick, thank you for taking the time to write to us here at TOCWOC.  I&#039;ve forwarded your comments (and your email address in private) to James Durney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly.  </p>
<p>Mr. Bobrick, thank you for taking the time to write to us here at TOCWOC.  I&#8217;ve forwarded your comments (and your email address in private) to James Durney.</p>
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