Comments on: Are Slavery and Emancipation the ONLY Things Worth Studying from the American Civil War? http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/ Informed Amateurs Blog the American Civil War Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:41:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Jeff R http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-9837 Jeff R Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:07:51 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-9837 I'm a little late to the party, ok 2 years behind but I'd like to jump in. Since moving to South Carolina three years ago I have begun a growing interest in the Civil War. I am nowhere near buff/historian status, nor am I from the "north fought to end slavery, the south fought to keep it… north won end of story" folks. I guess you could say I lean Paul in this argument. I surmised during a short one year stay in South Carolina in the early 1980's that the state was still made up of mostly South Carolinians and Southerners from other states. Today sees a large influx Northerners, at least in the Charleston area where I reside. In 1981 when I lived here virtually everyone you spoke to in Charleston spoke with a geechee dialect (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geechee). Today when you walk the old slave market on Market Street you hear accents from New York, Jersey, and PA and the occasional soft southern drawl. Now, I have both southern friends and northern friends here and its astounding when, talking about the Civil War how many of the northerners say the reason for the war on the part of the SOUTH was to keep slavery. When asked ‘what about something like States’ rights?’ “Nothing to do with it” is the general answer, or worse a blank stare!. My Southern friends will answer with a gamut of different causes, which if taken together as a whole define what the war was fought for from a Southern view. Not one has ever stated to me that slavery was a direct cause for the conflict, although some have classified it as a subsidiary cause.( I guess I should add that all the people I’m speaking of are white.) As to the argument, I would say from my limited experience and knowledge, that the actual reasons/causes of the war from both perspectives should be taught or displayed prominently at certain battlefields or Civil War sites. At the very minimum places that have achieved historical importance over the past 150 years; i.e. Ft. Sumter, Gettysburg, Appomattox, etc.. In saying this I am in no way denigrating the memory or sacrifices of the men of both armies that met, fought and died in the smaller engagements like Secessionville in SC on 16JUN1862, any piece of real estate that men died on is important regardless of side. However, looking at this from the point of view towards educating the American public as to the truth and root causes of the war, any one of the aforementioned battlefields attracts many times the visitor’s daily/yearly then Secessionville except possibly when the battle re-enactment is held there. Regardless of whether its politics, educators, academics or plain ignorance of people fostering the belief that the ACW was “all about” slavery, the facts surrounding its causes should be an integral part of the major historical sites education or tour programs to counter whatever institution(s) perpetuating the slavery only myth. I’m a little late to the party, ok 2 years behind but I’d like to jump in. Since moving to South Carolina three years ago I have begun a growing interest in the Civil War. I am nowhere near buff/historian status, nor am I from the “north fought to end slavery, the south fought to keep it… north won end of story” folks.
I guess you could say I lean Paul in this argument. I surmised during a short one year stay in South Carolina in the early 1980′s that the state was still made up of mostly South Carolinians and Southerners from other states. Today sees a large influx Northerners, at least in the Charleston area where I reside. In 1981 when I lived here virtually everyone you spoke to in Charleston spoke with a geechee dialect (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geechee). Today when you walk the old slave market on Market Street you hear accents from New York, Jersey, and PA and the occasional soft southern drawl.
Now, I have both southern friends and northern friends here and its astounding when, talking about the Civil War how many of the northerners say the reason for the war on the part of the SOUTH was to keep slavery. When asked ‘what about something like States’ rights?’ “Nothing to do with it” is the general answer, or worse a blank stare!. My Southern friends will answer with a gamut of different causes, which if taken together as a whole define what the war was fought for from a Southern view. Not one has ever stated to me that slavery was a direct cause for the conflict, although some have classified it as a subsidiary cause.( I guess I should add that all the people I’m speaking of are white.)
As to the argument, I would say from my limited experience and knowledge, that the actual reasons/causes of the war from both perspectives should be taught or displayed prominently at certain battlefields or Civil War sites. At the very minimum places that have achieved historical importance over the past 150 years; i.e. Ft. Sumter, Gettysburg, Appomattox, etc.. In saying this I am in no way denigrating the memory or sacrifices of the men of both armies that met, fought and died in the smaller engagements like Secessionville in SC on 16JUN1862, any piece of real estate that men died on is important regardless of side.
However, looking at this from the point of view towards educating the American public as to the truth and root causes of the war, any one of the aforementioned battlefields attracts many times the visitor’s daily/yearly then Secessionville except possibly when the battle re-enactment is held there.
Regardless of whether its politics, educators, academics or plain ignorance of people fostering the belief that the ACW was “all about” slavery, the facts surrounding its causes should be an integral part of the major historical sites education or tour programs to counter whatever institution(s) perpetuating the slavery only myth.

]]> By: Bobby Edwards http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-8257 Bobby Edwards Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:11:12 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-8257 CONCERNING RACE - In all issues of race from the past through the present, there are those who have a purpose in their objectives of describing others and painting them as racist. Throughout the country, large numbers of citizens gather together in groups or individually to protest the enormous spending and waste of the Federal Government. Almost immediately, the Big Spenders advocates start re-framing the protesters as "Racist". This technique is a favorite Re-Framing Technique, where if you Paint Your Opponent as Racist - Somehow, they have lost Credibility and An Ability to Establish their Anti-Government Concerns - that could be Destroying the Treasury of the Country. The 150 Year Sesquicentennial Commissions in Many States are Composed of large Numbers of those Who Will Re-Frame the Events on "Afro-Centric Memory Affairs", All the While - Attendance of Afro-Centric Attendees will be Zero or Almost Zero, if 3 visits to Gettysburg or Other Battlefields or NPS Locations are any Indicators . Tens of Millions of Dollars Will Go to Telling a One-Side Story, Afro-Centric Related that Has Nothing to Do with the Battle, that These Men, boys Fought, Bled, and Died for Defending their Cause - "Reunite the Country, or Defending Their State". These 150 Year Sesquicentennial Events Will Become a Collection of Liberal and Progressive Educators, Patting Each Other on the Back about How "Black Sensitive" they are, and at the Same Time Will be Denigrating the South for Slavery - IGNORING the Slavery that Existed in the North, or the Failure to Really Free the Slaves in Their Territory, Until After the Civil War was Over. The State Sesquicentennial Commissions Have Already Been Packed - The Events Organized, and the SCV or Southern Heritage Groups Excluded. These Commissions Have a Mission, and It is Less About Civil-War Memory than Jamming Down the Throats of Southerners that They Lost the War and That Slavery Was at The Heart of Everything in The War. These Same Liberals Fail to Report on the Millions of Africans Still in Slavery Today, or Do They Fight For Their Freeing or the Abolition of Slavery in Africa. Nor, Do they fight to Hold Northern Legislators, or Abraham Lincoln Responsible for Not Freeing the Slaves, the Day the War Started. If This Was a War About Slavery. It's Only a Continuing War Against Southern Conservatives, and another Extension of the Liberal Progressive Efforts to Destroy Constitutional Government and Conservative Independence from an Over-Reaching Government. Perhaps, One Needs to Examine the Big Central-Progressive Government Models of Northern States of Today, against the Conservative Individual Responsibility Models of Southern States to See the Real Outcomes of the Results of the Civil War. The Massive Failures of These Commissions Will be the Omissions of Real Heritage Memory Issues of those Searching for Answers to their Ancestors Involvement in the War to a Re-Framing of Political Issues the Progressives are So Sensitive About. Crowds Will be Down and Disappointments Up. It's Their Typical Answer in the way they Run Government - Spending Too Much Money and Getting Too Few the Results. CONCERNING RACE – In all issues of race from the past through the present, there are those who have a purpose in their objectives of describing others and painting them as racist. Throughout the country, large numbers of citizens gather together in groups or individually to protest the enormous spending and waste of the Federal Government. Almost immediately, the Big Spenders advocates start re-framing the protesters as “Racist”. This technique is a favorite Re-Framing Technique, where if you Paint Your Opponent as Racist – Somehow, they have lost Credibility and An Ability to Establish their Anti-Government Concerns – that could be Destroying the Treasury of the Country.

The 150 Year Sesquicentennial Commissions in Many States are Composed of large Numbers of those Who Will Re-Frame the Events on “Afro-Centric Memory Affairs”, All the While – Attendance of Afro-Centric Attendees will be Zero or Almost Zero, if 3 visits to Gettysburg or Other Battlefields or NPS Locations are any Indicators . Tens of Millions of Dollars Will Go to Telling a One-Side Story, Afro-Centric Related that Has Nothing to Do with the Battle, that These Men, boys Fought, Bled, and Died for Defending their Cause – “Reunite the Country, or Defending Their State”. These 150 Year Sesquicentennial Events Will Become a Collection of Liberal and Progressive Educators, Patting Each Other on the Back about How “Black Sensitive” they are, and at the Same Time Will be Denigrating the South for Slavery – IGNORING the Slavery that Existed in the North, or the Failure to Really Free the Slaves in Their Territory, Until After the Civil War was Over.

The State Sesquicentennial Commissions Have Already Been Packed – The Events Organized, and the SCV or Southern Heritage Groups Excluded. These Commissions Have a Mission, and It is Less About Civil-War Memory than Jamming Down the Throats of Southerners that They Lost the War and That Slavery Was at The Heart of Everything in The War.

These Same Liberals Fail to Report on the Millions of Africans Still in Slavery Today, or Do They Fight For Their Freeing or the Abolition of Slavery in Africa. Nor, Do they fight to Hold Northern Legislators, or Abraham Lincoln Responsible for Not Freeing the Slaves, the Day the War Started.

If This Was a War About Slavery. It’s Only a Continuing War Against Southern Conservatives, and another Extension of the Liberal Progressive Efforts to Destroy Constitutional Government and Conservative Independence from an Over-Reaching Government. Perhaps, One Needs to Examine the Big Central-Progressive Government Models of Northern States of Today, against the Conservative Individual Responsibility Models of Southern States to See the Real Outcomes of the Results of the Civil War.

The Massive Failures of These Commissions Will be the Omissions of Real Heritage Memory Issues of those Searching for Answers to their Ancestors Involvement in the War to a Re-Framing of Political Issues the Progressives are So Sensitive About. Crowds Will be Down and Disappointments Up. It’s Their Typical Answer in the way they Run Government – Spending Too Much Money and Getting Too Few the Results.

]]> By: David http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-8195 David Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:42:29 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-8195 I think that the Civil War was fought on much larger issues than Slavery. To continue the brainwashing that public school students receive from their textbooks at the battlefield interpretive centers is a waste. It's almost as if abolishment of Slavery was a side issue at that time, although I'm sensitive to those who view the slavery experience as one of extreme importance. But the political issues that brought Washington to a boil before the secessions have got to be understood in order to understand what has gone wrong with our country today. I live in North Carolina, and it's with a heavy heart I keep reminding myself of her betrayal in 1867-8. I can't help but see that the so-called reconstruction acts were the end that the corrupt elite in Washington sought all along. It's because of the Civil War experience that North Carolina, and the other Southern States as well went through, and then the post war usurpations that although we look like a state, it's only for appearances. For example, even if Gov. Perdue wanted to support her fellow Gov. Jan Brewer in another clearly state's rights issue she knows that NC cannot defy the Federal Government since we have never been released from our 1868 occupation. There is a lot of complicated political manuvering to learn about w/r to the Civil War, dwarfing the issue of slavery. But that's a racial guilt issue and it's going to be remembered long after the chicanery going on in Washington at the time is buried and forgotten. The Battlefield action is taken out of context when not considered along with the politics, and I doubt that the Generals on either side thought much or at all about the slavery issue. Again, it was the Union fighting for survival, and A. Lincoln was going to use every trick he could think of so it didn't expire on his watch. He managed to save it, but the patient is now dying in spite of him- or because of him? Although the Civil War brought an end to the institution of black slavery in the South, by the same token, it ends up we are all slaves to the government whether we know it or not, and haven't had a peaceful year since then i.e. not under the thumb of an emergency executive order, which still need to be brought to an end if we ever want to live as free patriots in our own coutry. I think that the Civil War was fought on much larger issues than Slavery. To continue the brainwashing that public school students receive from their textbooks at the battlefield interpretive centers is a waste. It’s almost as if abolishment of Slavery was a side issue at that time, although I’m sensitive to those who view the slavery experience as one of extreme importance. But the political issues that brought Washington to a boil before the secessions have got to be understood in order to understand what has gone wrong with our country today. I live in North Carolina, and it’s with a heavy heart I keep reminding myself of her betrayal in 1867-8. I can’t help but see that the so-called reconstruction acts were the end that the corrupt elite in Washington sought all along. It’s because of the Civil War experience that North Carolina, and the other Southern States as well went through, and then the post war usurpations that although we look like a state, it’s only for appearances. For example, even if Gov. Perdue wanted to support her fellow Gov. Jan Brewer in another clearly state’s rights issue she knows that NC cannot defy the Federal Government since we have never been released from our 1868 occupation. There is a lot of complicated political manuvering to learn about w/r to the Civil War, dwarfing the issue of slavery. But that’s a racial guilt issue and it’s going to be remembered long after the chicanery going on in Washington at the time is buried and forgotten. The Battlefield action is taken out of context when not considered along with the politics, and I doubt that the Generals on either side thought much or at all about the slavery issue. Again, it was the Union fighting for survival, and A. Lincoln was going to use every trick he could think of so it didn’t expire on his watch. He managed to save it, but the patient is now dying in spite of him- or because of him? Although the Civil War brought an end to the institution of black slavery in the South, by the same token, it ends up we are all slaves to the government whether we know it or not, and haven’t had a peaceful year since then i.e. not under the thumb of an emergency executive order, which still need to be brought to an end if we ever want to live as free patriots in our own coutry.

]]> By: Dan http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-8108 Dan Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:14:14 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-8108 An important question, this. Let me offer a bit of a view "from the trenches", as it were. As a seasonal NPS interp ranger at Chick-Chatt, I've done living history, car caravan tours, and impromptu talks (i.e., "Let me tell you about this collection of artillery shells", etc.). My guess is that probably 75 to 85 percent of the visitors come equipped with a MINIMAL understanding of the war. They get that it was North vs. South, that there were battles, that slavery was somehow related, and that the North won. That's about their limit. It's up to us to bring them "up to speed" on the significance of Chick-Chatt. The CW buff probably accounts for 15 percent or less (and I think that's being generous) of our visitorship. That 15% can be roughly summarized as follows: * 65% are in their 60's-70's * 30% are in their 40's-50's * close to 98% are white males These demographics may be the exception; I'd love to see comparisons from NPS interps at other CW parks. But they do seem to be suggestive a couple of things: 1. Not only is the CW buff a minority figure, but the CW buff devoted to tactical minutiae is so small a fraction as to be almost non-existent (at least, in regards to actual park visitation). 2. With over two-thirds of the buffs in their dotage, and apparently very few younger fellows to take their place, we can probably expect an ever-increasing minimilization (is that a word?) of the CW buff as a noteworthy demographic overall, but especially on CW battlefields. 3. Most women who come to CW sites seem to be dragged along by their husbands/boyfriends. Most kids are probably also dragged along because the parents think that history is "good for them to know". I have my doubts as to whether either demographic will take to the subject on their own---unless we somehow attract their interest (and given that they now account for 51% of the world's population, and thus a good chunk of the change necessary to keep the NPS running, I'd argue that we need to). Perhaps a Women's Civil War Contribution National Historic Park would solve the problem? 4. We hear so much about how Ken Burns' series turned so many people on to the subject. From here...I just don't see it. If so many people suddenly became very interested in the war thanks to that series, then they have yet to materially act on that interest through battlefield visits. This begs the ever-more-pertinent question: does audio-visual engagement (which many claim to be the future of establishing personal connections of history) stimulate other forms of participation? Or does it merely add up to one more cool TV show/web-site/Tweet/YouTube video, with no more lasting effect than the one previous? Here at Chick-Chatt, of course, the buffs have the option of the yearly March Seminar in the Woods, chaired by the park historian and by visiting Chickamauga expert extraordinaire Dave Powell. That's tactical minutiae to the nth degree. But for the NPS to remodel its exhibits/interpretation in favor of that demographic is, as far as I can see, unadvisable. An important question, this. Let me offer a bit of a view “from the trenches”, as it were.

As a seasonal NPS interp ranger at Chick-Chatt, I’ve done living history, car caravan tours, and impromptu talks (i.e., “Let me tell you about this collection of artillery shells”, etc.). My guess is that probably 75 to 85 percent of the visitors come equipped with a MINIMAL understanding of the war. They get that it was North vs. South, that there were battles, that slavery was somehow related, and that the North won. That’s about their limit. It’s up to us to bring them “up to speed” on the significance of Chick-Chatt.

The CW buff probably accounts for 15 percent or less (and I think that’s being generous) of our visitorship. That 15% can be roughly summarized as follows:

* 65% are in their 60′s-70′s
* 30% are in their 40′s-50′s
* close to 98% are white males

These demographics may be the exception; I’d love to see comparisons from NPS interps at other CW parks. But they do seem to be suggestive a couple of things:

1. Not only is the CW buff a minority figure, but the CW buff devoted to tactical minutiae is so small a fraction as to be almost non-existent (at least, in regards to actual park visitation).

2. With over two-thirds of the buffs in their dotage, and apparently very few younger fellows to take their place, we can probably expect an ever-increasing minimilization (is that a word?) of the CW buff as a noteworthy demographic overall, but especially on CW battlefields.

3. Most women who come to CW sites seem to be dragged along by their husbands/boyfriends. Most kids are probably also dragged along because the parents think that history is “good for them to know”. I have my doubts as to whether either demographic will take to the subject on their own—unless we somehow attract their interest (and given that they now account for 51% of the world’s population, and thus a good chunk of the change necessary to keep the NPS running, I’d argue that we need to). Perhaps a Women’s Civil War Contribution National Historic Park would solve the problem?

4. We hear so much about how Ken Burns’ series turned so many people on to the subject. From here…I just don’t see it. If so many people suddenly became very interested in the war thanks to that series, then they have yet to materially act on that interest through battlefield visits. This begs the ever-more-pertinent question: does audio-visual engagement (which many claim to be the future of establishing personal connections of history) stimulate other forms of participation? Or does it merely add up to one more cool TV show/web-site/Tweet/YouTube video, with no more lasting effect than the one previous?

Here at Chick-Chatt, of course, the buffs have the option of the yearly March Seminar in the Woods, chaired by the park historian and by visiting Chickamauga expert extraordinaire Dave Powell. That’s tactical minutiae to the nth degree. But for the NPS to remodel its exhibits/interpretation in favor of that demographic is, as far as I can see, unadvisable.

]]> By: Bobby Edwards http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-3073 Bobby Edwards Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:23:39 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-3073 Very interesting topic, but I can't understand the necessity of including slavery as an ingredient in interperting the battle. And, more importantly most of the battlefields here in Virginia are excluded from an adequate NPS Interpertation anyway. It's up to the individual to do due diligence in doing his own battlefield research using all of the possible resources: Official Records, Maps, Book Articles, Magazine Articles, Old Letters, and Regimental Histories. That's where the Study of the Battle Begins. It's important to collect material from both sides in the understanding of what happened in the battle. Over 90% of the Battlefields are Simply fields, woods, and terrain that no longer resemble the actual field of battle, when troops engaged in a life and death struggle. Historians write articles from a variety of sources, and when they paint the picture of action and engagements on a field with their Maps, Charts, and Diagrams, there may be much missing, especially if the original reports are flawed. I would find it a bit insidious to see pamphlets on Southern Slavery or Northern Slavery, when visiting a Battlefield. Perhaps the Stories or Movies [Gangs of New York] about the Draft Riots in New York following the Gettsyburg could be appropriate at Gettysburg (as a Post Script), but I just can't see interjecting an Issue that doesn't relate to the Battlefield. Remember, Men Fought, Bled, Died, Cried, and Felt Pain on the Battlefield. They were not thinking of Political Issues, They were Thinking of Killing Others, of Protecting their Friends, and Of Surviving the Battle. Perhaps, Lawrence Chamberlin expressed it best, when asked why his Soldier Fought. It was Simple - "They Fought for Each Other". The Naked Display of Political Correctness on the Battlefield is the Reframing of History. As a Vietnam Veteran Seeing War on a Close Up and Personal Basis, My Brothers Have a Lot of Respect for those they Fought - The Enemy. There's a Lesson to be Learned There. You will never find me Pushing any "Slavery Message Buttons" at Seven Pines, Ellerson's Mill, Beaver Dam Creek, Gaines Mill, Savage Station, Glendale, Malvern Hill, Bermuda Hundred, Petersburg, Reams Station, Charles City Rd, Peebles Farm, Jones Farm, Davis Farm, Beef Steak Raid, Burgess Mill, Hatcher's Run, Five Forks, Dinwiddie Court House, or any Other Battlefield in Richmond or Petersburg. Very interesting topic, but I can’t understand the necessity of including slavery as an ingredient in interperting the battle. And, more importantly most of the battlefields here in Virginia are excluded from an adequate NPS Interpertation anyway. It’s up to the individual to do due diligence in doing his own battlefield research using all of the possible resources: Official Records, Maps, Book Articles, Magazine Articles, Old Letters, and Regimental Histories. That’s where the Study of the Battle Begins. It’s important to collect material from both sides in the understanding of what happened in the battle.

Over 90% of the Battlefields are Simply fields, woods, and terrain that no longer resemble the actual field of battle, when troops engaged in a life and death struggle. Historians write articles from a variety of sources, and when they paint the picture of action and engagements on a field with their Maps, Charts, and Diagrams, there may be much missing, especially if the original reports are flawed.

I would find it a bit insidious to see pamphlets on Southern Slavery or Northern Slavery, when visiting a Battlefield. Perhaps the Stories or Movies [Gangs of New York] about the Draft Riots in New York following the Gettsyburg could be appropriate at Gettysburg (as a Post Script), but I just can’t see interjecting an Issue that doesn’t relate to the Battlefield. Remember, Men Fought, Bled, Died, Cried, and Felt Pain on the Battlefield. They were not thinking of Political Issues, They were Thinking of Killing Others, of Protecting their Friends, and Of Surviving the Battle. Perhaps, Lawrence Chamberlin expressed it best, when asked why his Soldier Fought. It was Simple – “They Fought for Each Other”.

The Naked Display of Political Correctness on the Battlefield is the Reframing of History. As a Vietnam Veteran Seeing War on a Close Up and Personal Basis, My Brothers Have a Lot of Respect for those they Fought – The Enemy. There’s a Lesson to be Learned There. You will never find me Pushing any “Slavery Message Buttons” at Seven Pines, Ellerson’s Mill, Beaver Dam Creek, Gaines Mill, Savage Station, Glendale, Malvern Hill, Bermuda Hundred, Petersburg, Reams Station, Charles City Rd, Peebles Farm, Jones Farm, Davis Farm, Beef Steak Raid, Burgess Mill, Hatcher’s Run, Five Forks, Dinwiddie Court House, or any Other Battlefield in Richmond or Petersburg.

]]> By: Stephen Graham http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-1503 Stephen Graham Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:38:06 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-1503 As I indicated originally, I expect that the average battlefield visitor has a moderate awareness that the Civil War occurred, i.e., they aren't at the same level as someone reading <i>Return to Bull Run</i>. As I indicated originally, I expect that the average battlefield visitor has a moderate awareness that the Civil War occurred, i.e., they aren’t at the same level as someone reading Return to Bull Run.

]]> By: marty hancock http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-1501 marty hancock Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:58:24 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-1501 Stephen, Exactly. No use in preaching to the choir. I respectfully submit that most battlefield visitors are informed also. I would hope that the ones who aren't would be moved enough by the events, the bravery, and the sacrifice displayed in these battles to seek more info on their own. Stephen,
Exactly. No use in preaching to the choir. I respectfully submit that most battlefield visitors are informed also. I would hope that the ones who aren’t would be moved enough by the events, the bravery, and the sacrifice displayed in these battles to seek more info on their own.

]]> By: The Civil War in the classroom http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-1499 The Civil War in the classroom Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:53:22 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-1499 [...] XHTML ← Are Slavery and Emancipation the ONLY Things Worth Studying from the American Civil War? [...] [...] XHTML ← Are Slavery and Emancipation the ONLY Things Worth Studying from the American Civil War? [...]

]]> By: Stephen Graham http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Stephen Graham Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:22:07 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-1496 How many people reading <i>Return to Bull Run</i> are unlikely to have read some introductory Civil War history beforehand? How many people reading Return to Bull Run are unlikely to have read some introductory Civil War history beforehand?

]]> By: martybrvt http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2008/10/08/are-slavery-and-emancipation-the-only-things-worth-studying-from-the-american-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 martybrvt Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:18:10 +0000 http://www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/?p=1894#comment-1494 I have to side with Eric on this. I think that most neophytes already have the perception that slavery caused the Civil War. While not untrue this is a gross oversimplification. As you suggest, slavery should certainly be a subject at Sumter, Harper's Ferry, museums, but not necessarily battlefields. In John Hennessy's wonderful "Return to Bull Run" he does not preface the work with a discourse on causes of the war or the morality of slavery. He explains how the armies got there, what the leaders were trying to accomplish, then sets up and describes the battle. I think battlefields should present in the same manner. I have to side with Eric on this. I think that most neophytes already have the perception that slavery caused the Civil War. While not untrue this is a gross oversimplification. As you suggest, slavery should certainly be a subject at Sumter, Harper’s Ferry, museums, but not necessarily battlefields.
In John Hennessy’s wonderful “Return to Bull Run” he does not preface the work with a discourse on causes of the war or the morality of slavery. He explains how the armies got there, what the leaders were trying to accomplish, then sets up and describes the battle. I think battlefields should present in the same manner.

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