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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on The Hard Hand of War: Union Military Policy Toward Southern Civilians, 1861-1865 by Mark Grimsley</title>
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		<title>By: Latest Issue of Civil War History (March 2008) Looks Promising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latest Issue of Civil War History (March 2008) Looks Promising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This topic would have been interesting to me regardless, but it is especially so now given my recent read of Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War. The last article is South of the Border: Ulysses S. Grant and the French Intervention, a topic I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This topic would have been interesting to me regardless, but it is especially so now given my recent read of Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War. The last article is South of the Border: Ulysses S. Grant and the French Intervention, a topic I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Powell Comments on The Hard Hand of War</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Powell Comments on The Hard Hand of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Powell posted an excellent and lengthy response to my recent review of Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War in the comments section following [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett and Drew,

One of the problems I have with most examinations of Sherman&#039;s March is the almost complete lack of discussion about Rebel destruction. While trying to figure out - house by house, as it were - who was responsible for every act is impossible, the responsibility that Wheeler&#039;s cavalry must bear is usually mentioned only in passing, if at all. 

In fact, Wheeler destroyed vast amounts of public property. He was ordered to. In addition, however, his command was among the most undisciplined of all ACW regular troops (excepting guerrilla bands) and they commited widespread personal destruction &amp; looting as well. One of my favorite examples? A letter from an officer in Terry&#039;s Texas Rangers sending home a set of silver candlesticks he &#039;foraged.&#039; he wrote this letter in late 64, outside Savannah. Where do you suppose he found those candlesticks? 

The conduct of Wheeler&#039;s men at the time drew such outrage from the locals that it prompted CSA congressional investigations and similar efforts from Confederate military authorities. Col. Roman, Beuaregard&#039;s chief of staff, wrote a damning report in Jan 65 on the lack of discipline in Wheeler&#039;s ranks. 

There are similar stories from earlier in the war: the sack of Cleveland Tenn by Rebel cav in Sept 1863, for example. 


This is all not to say that we should not look at the realities of Federal &quot;hard war;&quot; far from it. But it is also time to despel a lot of the romantic notions surrounding Confederate troops defending their homes and hearths. 

War is a brutalizing affair. Just as in the middle ages, when an army came by, whether on Chevauchee or not, it usually mattered little to the unfortunate civilians caught in the path which &#039;side&#039; visited. 

Dave Powell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett and Drew,</p>
<p>One of the problems I have with most examinations of Sherman&#8217;s March is the almost complete lack of discussion about Rebel destruction. While trying to figure out &#8211; house by house, as it were &#8211; who was responsible for every act is impossible, the responsibility that Wheeler&#8217;s cavalry must bear is usually mentioned only in passing, if at all. </p>
<p>In fact, Wheeler destroyed vast amounts of public property. He was ordered to. In addition, however, his command was among the most undisciplined of all ACW regular troops (excepting guerrilla bands) and they commited widespread personal destruction &amp; looting as well. One of my favorite examples? A letter from an officer in Terry&#8217;s Texas Rangers sending home a set of silver candlesticks he &#8216;foraged.&#8217; he wrote this letter in late 64, outside Savannah. Where do you suppose he found those candlesticks? </p>
<p>The conduct of Wheeler&#8217;s men at the time drew such outrage from the locals that it prompted CSA congressional investigations and similar efforts from Confederate military authorities. Col. Roman, Beuaregard&#8217;s chief of staff, wrote a damning report in Jan 65 on the lack of discipline in Wheeler&#8217;s ranks. </p>
<p>There are similar stories from earlier in the war: the sack of Cleveland Tenn by Rebel cav in Sept 1863, for example. </p>
<p>This is all not to say that we should not look at the realities of Federal &#8220;hard war;&#8221; far from it. But it is also time to despel a lot of the romantic notions surrounding Confederate troops defending their homes and hearths. </p>
<p>War is a brutalizing affair. Just as in the middle ages, when an army came by, whether on Chevauchee or not, it usually mattered little to the unfortunate civilians caught in the path which &#8217;side&#8217; visited. </p>
<p>Dave Powell</p>
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		<title>By: Military History Carnival</title>
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		<dc:creator>Military History Carnival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve decided to take Gavin up on his offer, submitting Drew Wagenhoffer&#8217;s excellent review of Drew Gilpin Faust&#8217;s This Republic of Suffering.  In a bit of shameless self-promotion, I also nominated my own review of Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve decided to take Gavin up on his offer, submitting Drew Wagenhoffer&#8217;s excellent review of Drew Gilpin Faust&#8217;s This Republic of Suffering.  In a bit of shameless self-promotion, I also nominated my own review of Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Further Discussion on Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War</title>
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		<dc:creator>Further Discussion on Mark Grimsley&#8217;s The Hard Hand of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you say? Because Mark spoke about the destructiveness of the Civil War around the same time I was reviewing and blogging about The Hard Hand of War, his book on the subject. In his blog entry, Mark had some interesting thoughts, including his hope [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brett S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,

Thanks for the comments.   I look forward to checking out some of the other literature out there on the subject.  Ash&#039;s book mentioned in the entry just arrived in the mail the other day, so I&#039;ll probably start with that.  Anyobdy else have any suggestions for follow-up books?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.   I look forward to checking out some of the other literature out there on the subject.  Ash&#8217;s book mentioned in the entry just arrived in the mail the other day, so I&#8217;ll probably start with that.  Anyobdy else have any suggestions for follow-up books?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been way too long since I&#039;ve read it to comment specifically, but I am one who believes he clearly went too far in downplaying the prevalence of property destruction and bodily violence against civilians.  The book&#039;s emphasis is on policy [as one might get from the title!], and I would also maintain that the realities of policy and actual practice were not as &#039;in step&#039; as the study asserts.  

That said, it is a very fine book that fully deserves its many accolades.  My main beef is with how other readers and historians often treat it as a comprehensive last word, when it would better be considered an excellent general starting point from which to delve deeper.

I need to buy my own copy and read it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been way too long since I&#8217;ve read it to comment specifically, but I am one who believes he clearly went too far in downplaying the prevalence of property destruction and bodily violence against civilians.  The book&#8217;s emphasis is on policy [as one might get from the title!], and I would also maintain that the realities of policy and actual practice were not as &#8216;in step&#8217; as the study asserts.  </p>
<p>That said, it is a very fine book that fully deserves its many accolades.  My main beef is with how other readers and historians often treat it as a comprehensive last word, when it would better be considered an excellent general starting point from which to delve deeper.</p>
<p>I need to buy my own copy and read it again.</p>
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